Bad Water, any ideas?

[pop22]

I wish I could determine exactly why my tap water ( which is well water ) kills Canna plants. It doesn't bother my veggies at all, but my canna gets nute locked ( at least that's what I think is happening ). I have annual water reports and I can see nothing that is off, all content is within acceptable limits

Maybe I'll filter a couple gallon with my Britta pitcher and make one plant a test subject, although I've tried 75% RO/25% tap water and still killed my ruined my plants. anyone have any ideas? I'm at a loss on this one! It really bothers me that I waste so much water making RO water. I have started testing commercially filtered water that I can buy for a dollar for 5 gallons when you use your own container. I mixed it about 60/40 with my RO and so far, it seems to be working without problem but I'm not sure this is a solution.

 

[Chester]

I use RO water that I buy for .25$ per gallon in my containers at various sites around town ... for a while I used Spring water from the Grocery @ .79$ per gallon ... when I water to run off I save the run off and use it on my flowers ... I've grown w/ VERY HARD spring water in the past w/ great success ... no CalMag needed ... Buying water and carrying it into my house is the most suspicious thing I do as a grower ... good luck.

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations Pop22,

...anyone have any ideas?

M'well, i do happen to have got one in mind for quite some while now, just for that type of event actually, but never cared to put it to test myself after i came forward with some proposal that didn't attract any popularity at the time...



Oh, my! Now IS the time and i've been waiting to recycle that one here for some long while too!

So here's my hint and i know you can decode it...

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Especially if it also happens to be linked!...



Good day, have fun!!

 

[calabria420]

just brain storming here , now im no scientist but if your living in the" country " per say around farms and your using well water , I know farmers use lots of herbicides that may not harm there crops and most veggies but will kill other/different plants/crops and weeds and usually these chemicals get in the ground and can possibly mix into the well water .....and your water is not treated so there isn't any chloramine that could be causing the problem ? .....interesting subject; has my brain boggled... lol... I myself once thought my tap water was poison but being a newer grower it was just my lack of experience , unlike yourself though ...haha .... hope your experiment/testing gives you some answers happy growing dude

 

[pop22]

that's a true hermie by my understanding. Nanners are not hermaphroditic indicators, they are mostly the results of excess stress and are not genetic.
"Other two females are being pollinated by a male Shiatsu Kush who has a single pistil growing from each mature pollen sack"

I find this quite interesting! What became of the plant watered with CS? did you gather any pollwn? Did it self? Have you tried pollen from such a plant to pollinate other plants? did you get hermies from them?

How about starting a new thread in Frankenstein's lab on this! This could be useful info!

Salutations Pop22,



M'well, i do happen to have got one in mind for quite some while now, just for that type of event actually, but never cared to put it to test myself after i came forward with some proposal that didn't attract any popularity at the time...



Oh, my! Now IS the time and i've been waiting to recycle that one here for some long while too!

So here's my hint and i know you can decode it...

​

Especially if it also happens to be linked!...



Good day, have fun!!

 

[pop22]

The well is shared by 5 homes and is treated with chlorine ( I asked ). I always leave the water out to disipate the chlorine, open container in the sun works great ( ever own a pool??... ). So its not chlorine and no signs of toxic runoff contamination. we have annual test and this year they did 2 tests, both showing normal results. See why I'm baffled?

just brain storming here , now im no scientist but if your living in the" country " per say around farms and your using well water , I know farmers use lots of herbicides that may not harm there crops and most veggies but will kill other/different plants/crops and weeds and usually these chemicals get in the ground and can possibly mix into the well water .....and your water is not treated so there isn't any chloramine that could be causing the problem ? .....interesting subject; has my brain boggled... lol... I myself once thought my tap water was poison but being a newer grower it was just my lack of experience , unlike yourself though ...haha .... hope your experiment/testing gives you some answers happy growing dude

 

[Papa Munch]

I believe that my some of my issues are with my water as well.
I used tap water that had sat out for at least 24 hrs. with my last 2 grows. In total, I had 8 plants and everyone of them had fan leaves starting to yellow between weeks 4-5. By week 8-9, all fan leaves were gone.

When I test my water straight from the tap, I get about 7.2 ph. PPM listed 280 the first and only time I tested. Recently I received the water report from my local city. The report lists that the acceptable 'Solids' range is somewhere around 200-1000 and ours is at 750! I think my water has way too much calcium and apparently high in the solids department.

(I don't have the report with me and I may be mis-interpreting the 'Solids' description. Whatever it is, it is the PPM of the water I believe.)

For my next grow, I am wanting to go with Distilled. It is about a $1/gal though......

 

[calabria420]

The well is shared by 5 homes and is treated with chlorine ( I asked ). I always leave the water out to disipate the chlorine, open container in the sun works great ( ever own a pool??... ). So its not chlorine and no signs of toxic runoff contamination. we have annual test and this year they did 2 tests, both showing normal results. See why I'm baffled?

I hear ya brother and see why your baffled . ya the Chlorine gases would definitely dissipate that way for sure ...but if it was chloramine (some other type of chlorine based treatment/disinfectant ) it does not dissipate ... So I am told ...and I think chloramine is real toxic to cannabis ....

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations Pop22,

Woups! It seems i was long to return, i must have disabled an alarm item that i shouldn't have i guess. My appologies if i seemed willing to ignore this reply, i can't get enough of them actually: electronic correspondance can be a really busy hobby all by itself!

Nanners are not hermaphroditic indicators, they are mostly the results of excess stress and are not genetic.

My self-cultivation experience is limited to only a few preliminary sessions meant to determine some more preliminary aspects that never came... Still, i've given some plants quite a fair amount of stress as i remember it, a couple never even flowered but i was lucky to never observe one of those "nanners" emerging ever. In retrospective i wish i had though, because failures have a value of their own too and i felt willing for more treat.

I find this quite interesting! What became of the plant watered with CS?

Oh, it was novel at the time i think but not very popular at all. There were 2 plants ready for CS sprays using 2 different concentrations in order to determine what's "stressful" and what's not... I even had Bug-B-Gon resistant Spider Mites ready to web around, etc., but controversy negated my determination to find out what's next and hence the experiment was finally cancelled. In essence i thought others are always welcome to try it by themselves.

...did you gather any pollen? Did it self? Have you tried pollen from such a plant to pollinate other plants? Did you get hermies from them?

ZERO anything. In low concentrations (around 3 ~ 10 ppm) i was expecting CD sprays to kill the eggs (because they are too primitive living structures to adapt) while i didn't fear having males on my windows-sill provided they'd look healthy and i couldn't care less for nanners in those days, because it can be despressing enough to face an invasion... But i was confident it could have worked and produce either healthy females or even healthy false-males, so to speak - my only wish was to benefit from their magical presence again, sitting nearby in my rocking chair, sniffing their fragrance...

How about starting a new thread in Frankenstein's lab on this! This could be useful info!

Ah yes, i recall reading about that specific section now. Briefly put that was my version of a silent contestation ("gorilla"?) project for lazy elders loosing autonomy: just put it on the windows-sill and spray! Imagine grand-pa handling pollen production and breeding for a nephew who'd be frightened by the mere thought of it, etc. Also, the potential need to displace 2 ~ 3 plants from one window to the next twice a day would have added an element of daily physical activity capable of distracting some persons from their chronic issues, etc. Then i came to conclude perhaps only males can be happy with such limited resources and finally Hydro-Quebec's logging meters arrived while i still had it all on stall trying to decide what's next with The Borg.

Well i knew i had a limited amount of years and material resources to spare, it was fun in the begining but the chances i can renew that feeling again are slim, next to nill to be honest. The ladies are gone and i got 1 one seed left which may fail to be viable, but the legacy remains and despite interfering adversity i wouldn't have been the same guy without such a great opportunity to get a glimpse at this wonderful universe. Enjoy your luck everyone!

Good day, have fun!!

 

[pop22]

ppms above 160 is considered hard water so your must be 1/2 concrete..........lol!

I believe that my some of my issues are with my water as well.
I used tap water that had sat out for at least 24 hrs. with my last 2 grows. In total, I had 8 plants and everyone of them had fan leaves starting to yellow between weeks 4-5. By week 8-9, all fan leaves were gone.

When I test my water straight from the tap, I get about 7.2 ph. PPM listed 280 the first and only time I tested. Recently I received the water report from my local city. The report lists that the acceptable 'Solids' range is somewhere around 200-1000 and ours is at 750! I think my water has way too much calcium and apparently high in the solids department.

(I don't have the report with me and I may be mis-interpreting the 'Solids' description. Whatever it is, it is the PPM of the water I believe.)

For my next grow, I am wanting to go with Distilled. It is about a $1/gal though......