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[Monkeypox]

I have been breeding out a few strains strictly for color . The bases are Duurty Dragon , Jem , Bad Betty , and Magic Dragon . Have been doing continuous runs picking just the colored phenos and having a friend test run the seed to see percentage of colored as well as what colors come of each batch .

Here's the question(s).

can you get to 100% colored strain ? Can a resulting strain be 100% , but have more than one color?

So far we have been able to get close to 75% color out of 30 girls . But , I have had a dark purple , a red , and a sort of pink hue .

My goal is to stabilize a single cross to get all color , preferably one color , but more than one would be ok .

Btw . have not introduced anything beyond what i started with , have just been inbreeding from the originals by picking the males and females that have color and breeding those . Have used a staggered planting schedule to accomplish this so I have females well enough into flower to accept pollen from the later planted males .

 

[sativalover]

1. I have been breeding out a few strains strictly for color . The bases are Duurty Dragon , Jem , Bad Betty , and Magic Dragon . Have been doing continuous runs picking just the colored phenos and having a friend test run the seed to see percentage of colored as well as what colors come of each batch .
   
   Here's the question(s).
   
   can you get to 100% colored strain ? Can a resulting strain be 100% , but have more than one color?
   
   So far we have been able to get close to 75% color out of 30 girls . But , I have had a dark purple , a red , and a sort of pink hue .
   
   My goal is to stabilize a single cross to get all color , preferably one color , but more than one would be ok .
   
   Btw . have not introduced anything beyond what i started with , have just been inbreeding from the originals by picking the males and females that have color and breeding those . Have used a staggered planting schedule to accomplish this so I have females well enough into flower to accept pollen from the later planted males .

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   the simple answer would be yes
   but the problem is this is just using the basis that mathmatically there are only a certain amount of possibilities the problem is that number can be great
   as example to be clear
   as far as humans go for the comparison we can see w/ our own eyes
   there is widley known understanding w/in how eye color is accomplished
   and it is rather simple to understand rec and dom trait but the subtle in between of total opp is what we can easily see and the inbetween is what is harder to explain
   like the term hazel
   well we can clearly see that w/in hazel is an vast inbetween a broad scale w/in hazel that you are looking for
   the more you breed like traits(even recessive ones) the more dom they will become is overall answer
   my problem w/ the question is 100% ???
   this is a term i say we use to loosly and trying to constitute 100% as an absolute would require you to genetically sequence strain and only reproduce w/ strains that are confirmed EXACT
   well if this is the question i would say can you do this to 100% guarantee the parameters of the experiment..
   No you can not so the answer is no you can't in truth
   buttt..
   that doesn't inturn rule out the possibility to enhance your chances by continous breeding of certain characteristics to increase the chances of theese to become more dominate in the forwarding generations
   yes you can mathmatically increase the chances probably to a point where you couldn't see subtle dif w/in the strain but there still will be ever so slight a variation
   we don't have enough time to 100% breed genetics there have been thousands of years of genetic variation in the lant species and you can see all the dif in genetics it has produced
   100% really is a marketing gimic to help relieve and comfort "sheeple" and conduce them into a warm soft cuddly purchase
   like the term "stable"​

 

[greenthumper]

100%? Not possible but you can get 99.9% purple plants no problem. Take a purple plant use CS or STS on a female to get pollen from it. Put the pollen back on the purple plant and repeat for 5-6 generations. This will give you a severely inbred 99.9% purple female beans. You can also use m/f breeding to achieve 99.9% purple but it would take several generations.

 

[stonemaster]

Why breed for color? 25 years ago purple skunk came around and we all tried to breed this color into our stock. Result, made no difference in anything other than color.No increase in potantacy,yeild, taste or anything but color. Wasted a lot of time breeding for this but the end result was pretty.

 

[DJMILKCRATE]

@monkeypox ..wow i'd love to see ur work even pick of some beans sound like a cool thing u got going ...keep it up

 

[Torched]

@stonemaster I don't know about 25 years ago but there is certainly a purple taste and smell today although most purples are less potent IMO.

I really only know breeding stuff in theory but you should be able to get something that is almost always purple. Are you just crossing for color or are you back breeding with in a line(inbreeding)? If you are are just taking two plants that are colored and crossing them you will increase the odds of color but still have so many genetic options that any other traits could show up. I believe to lock in certain traits you would want to breed from a dark plant and then select is own colored offspring to back breed with it. This limits the amount of other genes and greatly increases the odds of the desired trait being expressed. It is usually a good idea to backcross with a plant 2 generations out to help prevent any sever genetic problems from inbreeding. I too would love to see some of your selections, I love color.

 

[Monkeypox]

Why breed for color? 25 years ago purple skunk came around and we all tried to breed this color into our stock. Result, made no difference in anything other than color.No increase in potantacy,yeild, taste or anything but color. Wasted a lot of time breeding for this but the end result was pretty.

It's not just color . Potency has to be there also . For me , I just like the color , that's why I have been breeding towards that . Since I can't clone any of these , I basically have used the offspring to try to aim towards the color/potency traits .

Even if it is not 100% , getting close would make me happy .

I have 8 out of 10 females atm that have color , just waiting on some pollen that was collected from a very nice purple boy . Will try to get some pics up . Right now I am heading into the end of summer harvest season , so kinda busy with that .