Advanced breader question-Was She Too Easy?

[InHumboldt]

I Got a she male and it's buttons were pushed. I was not trying to hermi the plant but if I were trying to make organic feminized pollen this is about how it is done. I sexed a set of OG Kushes. The females were beat up so I wanted them to veg more, so back to 24hrs/day. Well with 4-20 coming soon I sent 1 back to 12/12 as soon as the veg growth started. There was only one sepal per leaf and she had been deprived P---and it turns out OG Kush is not good with cutting P to manipulate it. Well I got a she/male, I'm low on space but if this is not too easy a stressor, then it may be worth the effort to get some pollen. I already have one such strain and I got to admit that if you don't push it's buttons just right -no pollen!

 

[wg]

I'm not an advanced breeder, but ideally you don't want to use hermie pollen that isn't from a reverse female. All your doing is solidifying the weak genetics in place. I've used hermie pollen from a T.H Seeds Burmese Kush on several different strains before and the results were normal seeds with a high hermie rate. Out of the 11 females I grew to bloom, 8 hermied up. While this selection is small, I'm sure if I reversed the BUKU from a stable mother then this wouldn't have happened.

Just my .

 

[InHumboldt]

That is the general rule but I do have a strain, and it reproduces by a set a stressors that unless used right---there's no pollen. Can't get it to reverse by GA3, CS or by other organic methods-I've got one of that strain ready for STS but I'm too busy right now.

 

[Epic Genetics]

this was far from an "Advanced breader question" its moreso a "careless pollin chucker question"

im not trying to be rude so please dont take it that way , i just do NOT want people to see posts/threads like this all over the net (especially here) and think it is ok or an advanced technique to breed with stress induced hermies as it is NOT a good way to go about breeding and stress induced hermies do NOT always produce fems

proper breeding includes eliminating hermies and the hermie trait , NOT useing hermies , stress induced or not , a hermie is a hermie

i wont mention site names , but ive seen FAR too many posts/threads about useing hermie pollin lately and it turns my stomach , which gets worse as my blood starts to boil when i think of all the hermie prone seeds being passed around , in turn polluting the genepool

whether you stressed it or not it IS still hermie , get better at reversal , practice makes perfect as the saying goes , ive not yet come across a plant i could not reverse with C.S , including my prized og kush

best of luck with future breeding and peace

 

[InHumboldt]

Bob your are preaching to the quire on this one, but I've use this method on some good plants and strains and low and behold pollen. By good strains I'm talking Soma and Budda both non fem lines at that. However on this one I'm just now noting that it did not take all of what I normally need to force a good plant--( veg/bloom/reveg/rebloom/malnuresh/and photoshock with high humidity, high temp and no circulation)--so I'm not going to even keep it for research. This strain I have both sexes of and now I have to wonder if my other females will hermi if sent to bloom so early after sex-reveg.

Now I need to send one more OG to 12/12 and it's still so soon after reveg-----I guess it's time to find out if the strain has a weekness. So Bob guess you didn't think that I'm not looking at breeding the weak one-I'm looking at QC-ing the strain-fortunatly I just happen to have two in the wings and I could use an OG Kush female in bloom-so now it's rebloom, so soon I'm begging for it. That still leave the question-was she too easy?

 

[cres]

If it hermi's due to stress then it should be excluded from repro... and possibly the whole strain... if your looking to make quality seed then it is so important to start with stable genes. Not ones that as soon as there stressed start to hermi... That will only cause problems down the line...

 

[seraphim19]

I have to agree with cres and bob on this one. When I breed I stress the potential plants and any hermies get discarded before I apply CS.
I do this to ensure the stability of future generations as even if the initial offspring don't show hermie traits the genes are still there and could resurface in later generations.

Just my 2 cents

 

[SCARHOLE]

I say if the weed quality merits continuing the line. do it.
As was done with lines like Og kush.....

Zero tolerance of hermi (or fem seed for that matter) is a bit of an over reaction IMHO.
Just because you seen a single example of a Herman in its lineage dosent mean its useless.
Your not going to find a perfect mama that is immune to Herman's.

I've ran seed from Herman's an had no issues.
Last time it was sharksbreath, 7 in a row no Herman's despite the mother knocking herself up.

 

[InHumboldt]

The female in question is already dead. This strain is widely planted here, the farmer sells it on the white market. If I try another female now it will be an additional 10 days since reveg, so less likely. Still if I had my rathers I'd not rebloom so soon-

What I think I'll do is go back to who I got it from and see if it generated any complaints.She is the kind that would pull it off the shelf if it was trouble. At my last trip out to the point of sale it was still on the shelf after a year-it sells by the thousands It is an OG Kush

My Master Kush #1 has as it's #1 problem it is too hard to get it to make pollen-I'm not kidding, I'm thinking add a Y chromosome as I know how to do it in just two genera--with the aid of DNA testing.

 

[Epic Genetics]

Your not going to find a perfect mama that is immune to Herman's.

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imo you need to look better because they are out there , mothers immune to "HERMIES" that is