Hawaiian Sativa Preservation, selected for its colorful bleeding traits. Unfortunately, the other phenotypes were never photographed or the photos were deleted, but the colors ranged from clear and pink to red, maroon, black, and even blue.






Saint Aliester Growleyâs Thoughts on the Seed Ban
Saint Aliester Growley understands that people will have different opinions about the seed ban, but from his own experience, he believes it was necessary.
Over time, he has seen grows where the plants being shown looked very different from what the strain was supposed to be. He has also watched the market become increasingly filled with bulk and white-label seeds, sometimes packaged under names and brands that make them more appealing to buyers.
A $29 bundle with a large number of seeds may sound like a great deal, but Aliester believes the bigger question is: What are those seeds actually supposed to be?
When he purchases genetics, his priority has never been getting the most seeds for the least amount of money. He cares more about quality, authenticity, and knowing what he is working withâespecially when those genetics are going into a breeding project.
He has spoken out about practices he felt were not transparent, including situations involving seeds being repackaged under breeder names without clearly explaining who was responsible for the packaging. In one case, autoflower and photoperiod seeds were reportedly mixed up by the seedbank during packaging, resulting in growers receiving something different from what they expected.
Aliester has also noticed more growers building very large collections of inexpensive white-label seeds. There is nothing wrong with someone choosing that route, but he personally prefers having fewer genetics that he can trust and understand rather than collecting seeds simply because they are inexpensive.
For him, authenticity has always mattered more than quantity.
He believes the sheer amount of white-label genetics entering the market has made it increasingly difficult for growers to know exactly what they are receiving. He doesnât claim to have all the answers, and he understands that others may see things differently.
Saying you agree that the seed ban is necessary because you think the gene pool has been muddied up, is fookin wild!
Also, why are you speaking in third person�

The Great One is not here to answer questions, argue, or participate in endless back-and-forth debates.
So why is the Saint here?
To document.
Unfortunately, the Great One cannot keep photographs on his phone. His work is therefore documented publicly and preserved online, allowing him to return to it whenever necessary.
The Saint also understands the distinction between what is illegal under state law and what is federally prohibited. There is a significant difference between what was permitted in the past and what may become restricted under federal law concerning seeds.
The Saint sees plenty of people speaking on these subjects without knowing who they are speaking with. He respects everyone, including those who hold positions of authority, because the Saint himself holds a position of authority. There is no need for him to disrespect others or pretend otherwise.
What the Saint does find amusing is the notion that simply labeling cannabis seeds as âbird seedâ somehow makes them âlegalâ or impossible to identify. Seeds can be examined, distinguished, and identified.
Technology has advanced considerably. If modern imaging technology can see through materials as dense as bone, the Saint finds it rather amusing to believe that a small DVD case containing a dozen seeds is somehow beyond examination.
The Saint will leave the rest to the imagination.
Perhaps the more interesting question is this:
What exactly are some people calling âwhite-labelâ genetics these days?
Maui Trueblood does the same
That is correct. The main distinction between Maui Trueblood and Dragonsblood HP is that the Hawaiian Sativa genetics preserved by the Saint come from the stock that was used in developing those lines. The Saint simply considers himself fortunate to have been able to preserve and continue working with those genetics.
The Saint noticed a question regarding his Vampire Kush Auto (VPKA) and wanted to take the proper time to answer it.
To clarify, Vampire Kush Auto is not a hybrid of Dragonsblood, nor does it contain Dragonsblood or âbleedingâ genetics. However, during the preservation of the Hawaiian Sativa line, the Saint did create a separate Bleeding Vampire using Vampire Kush Auto and Hawaiian Sativa genetics.
The Bleeding Vampire is therefore a separate project and should not be confused with the original Vampire Kush Auto line.
Vampire Kush Auto has been inbred for roughly 15â20 years, through generations of continued selection and preservation. At this point, the Saint cannot honestly say exactly which filial generation the line is at, it has simply gone far beyond the generations he can reliably trak. He knows it is well past F30, but the exact generation has been lost to time.
Like many old lines, it has developed several names over the years. The All-knowning refers to the females as Vamp, Vampress, or Vampire, while the males carry names such as Dracula, Dracu etc.
The Saint considers VPKA one of his most personally important lines and continues to preserve the genetics with every grow.
The lineage and crosses the Great One used to create VPKA was never publicly published and those genetics used to create the Vamp are no longer
What has the Saint most excited at the moment is one particular strain.
It was originally destined to be culled because it appeared undesirable. However, the Saint noticed something unusual about the plant that changed his mind.
The clone has successfully developed roots, which is an encouraging first step. Now comes the difficult part- waiting.
Revegging is a slow process, and the Saint is content to let the plant take its time.
Believe it or not.
The Saint has witnessed something particularly interesting during his breeding work, a female plant appeared to change in phenotype after being pollinated.
This is not referring to the traits of the resulting seeds or offspring. The observation was made in the already-established female herself, following pollination.
The Saint does not claim to have all the answers behind what occurred. Whether the change was a physiological response to pollination, an environmental interaction, or something else entirely remains a question.
For the Saint, this is exactly why preservation and breeding work can be so fascinating.
The Great One would like to share a few things with those who follow his threads from time to time, little techniques and observations that may help improve their success when working with genetics.
One technique the Great One has personally used is embryo extraction. When an older seed fails to germinate, rather than immediately considering the genetics lost, the Great One may carefully extract the embryo while attempting to keep it intact.
From there, the embryo can be given the appropriate conditions and a very light nutritional boost to help support its development.

Well I donât think youâre gonna get very far here with that attitude. Weâre a community that works together helping each other. I get not debating but not answering any questions youâll be talking to your self pretty quick
When they speak in the third person, and refer to themselves by like seven different namesâŚ
itâs probably safe to assume they talk to themselves already
Hey @AliesterGrowley you should check out @Marshalling and his work on Reflowering. The simple nugget thinks it could be a mutually beneficial collaboration.
That would make sense if the seed ban was world wide, but itâs just the states bro. Everywhere else in the world people are still able to sell whatever they want and label as such. But the ban wonât fix that.
The King of Kings, Aliester Growley, does not seek attention through views, likes, or comments. He does not feel obligated to answer EVERY question, respond to EVERY remark, or engage in EVERY discussion that comes his way.
Aliester The Saint lets his work speak for itself. He has no need to chase recognition or convince anyone of what he does. The people who understand the work will recognize it, and those who do not are free to form their own opinions.
The King does not seek an Audience. The work speaks without it.
I get it, I been entrusted with something special and the responsibility of continuing its line. I also believe pissing in the gene pool is ruining a lot of strains and lines. You have to do the research to track down the real Mâckoy , as long as there are breeders that do the real work and ways to stay in contact like these forums then we have nothing to worry about.
