Over night yellowing and crisping of lower large fans

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Well it has happened lol I have finally had to visit the infirmary.. Ok Strain is Black Jack Auto Nutes are SeaGrow 16-16-16 1/2TSP and 1TSP of CalMag Plus to a gallon of water she usually takes a little over half of the gallon before runoff then I just let her drain until done. I just fed her last night and she was fine now I have just discovered the yellowing of the lower fan leafs and they are crisping as well she is 33 days old and other wise healthy reaching up for the light... Some input would be appreciated the water PH is 6.6/6.7.. Here are some pics (Also lights on temps are between 77 and 84 degrees lights off is about 73 degrees and humidity on is 44ish and off is 52ish) I was thinking maybe just natural dying off of the low fans but then thought it may be to early for that. Also when I fed her last time she was really parched and saggin on herself... is it possible when she started to drink and the leafs started lifting off one another she got burnt with transpiration?
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I can see what gatorback means about the mg def has that kind of look but i dont think its deficiency at all. Looks to me like some kind of leaf variegation. Just my 2c @Waira will know for sure.
Also looks like shes getting a tad to much N but looks great over all dude.
 
Comon @Waira lol I need ya and thanks guys, she is only in a 2 gallon smart pot only feeding every 4 days when pot is totally dry and light as a feather as I said last feed she was drooping all over her self she was so thirsty,that is what made me think it could me transpiration on the leafs when she started to perk up because she was so droopy the leafs that are affected had a ton of foliage laying on them thus causing a micro water world on the surface then getting burnt by the LEDS when they started to lift off of one another, as far as a Mag Def.. I am giving her 1TSP of calMag per feeding I have never had to go above 1TsP.. I guess there is a first time for everything.
 
:smoking: Kak' buddy, what's good man? Pardon my delay, it's been a late scramble harvest season for me,...
:doh: This again! I've seen this a few times now bro', and to date, I'm still not sure what it is! It doesn't fit any defc. symptom I'm familiar with; always, it's on lower leaves, with partial degradation of chlorophyll, but not totally wiped out, plus clean margins between good and bad tissue, and the bad areas are sunken,...then it dries out so fast the damage stays green! This sunken thing I think is from the some sort of internal cell death and collapse.. only thing I've seen in other plants that this fits is called mesophyll cell collapse (center layer, where all the photosynthetic machinery is at), and it's caused usually by a cold constant localized draft... I'm betting that's not the case with yours though..? Did it happen after that dry-out? That alone can kick off lots of crap,... it's not a transpiration issue for sure,... Kak', have you checked the in-pot pH? ..when there's a drastic dry-out, the pH goes batshit too, and that can cause short term issues and damage that linger for a bit after the pot and plant are rehydrated,... a similar thing can happen with hydro folks, when their res' water pH goes waaaay off suddenly, and they catch it soon, but some damage is done.... Is it still advancing? And do you have a root tonic, like SuperThrive, or Jump Start? That stuff will help get the thrashed roots heal up faster,.. Sorry I have nothng definitive my friend, it bugs the shit outta me too! Let me know about the soil pH, and symptom progression,... might be the more badly affected leave will tank, but the other will be okay..
 
:smoking: Kak' buddy, what's good man? Pardon my delay, it's been a late scramble harvest season for me,...
:doh: This again! I've seen this a few times now bro', and to date, I'm still not sure what it is! It doesn't fit any defc. symptom I'm familiar with; always, it's on lower leaves, with partial degradation of chlorophyll, but not totally wiped out, plus clean margins between good and bad tissue, and the bad areas are sunken,...then it dries out so fast the damage stays green! This sunken thing I think is from the some sort of internal cell death and collapse.. only thing I've seen in other plants that this fits is called mesophyll cell collapse (center layer, where all the photosynthetic machinery is at), and it's caused usually by a cold constant localized draft... I'm betting that's not the case with yours though..? Did it happen after that dry-out? That alone can kick off lots of crap,... it's not a transpiration issue for sure,... Kak', have you checked the in-pot pH? ..when there's a drastic dry-out, the pH goes batshit too, and that can cause short term issues and damage that linger for a bit after the pot and plant are rehydrated,... a similar thing can happen with hydro folks, when their res' water pH goes waaaay off suddenly, and they catch it soon, but some damage is done.... Is it still advancing? And do you have a root tonic, like SuperThrive, or Jump Start? That stuff will help get the thrashed roots heal up faster,.. Sorry I have nothng definitive my friend, it bugs the shit outta me too! Let me know about the soil pH, and symptom progression,... might be the more badly affected leave will tank, but the other will be okay..
Uh for soil Ph I will have to get a meter also it's been pretty good,what about you if you check out the journal I got goon now a lot of shit has changed with my space lol, but yeah it did happen after the dryout I watered her she perked up and then just a few very bottom lower fans started to turn and now the worst one is so crispy is breaking. But the rest of her is fine reaching up for the lights and still growing she is actually getting her pre-nuggie on so I don't know lol. I will just keep a eye on her she acts like she is gonna be fine. I will update in a day or 2 ahh next one I am going to hit a dp blue velvet, barneys LSD, CBD seeds Original Yumbolt and something else I cannot decide yet I am rambling and stoned lol thanks again man, Also on the root tonic... I have used Great White with all of the waterings except the last one.. I wonder if that would make a difference?
 
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.... these details help Kak' :thumbsup:-- in the past, other with this reported similar behavior of the affected leaves,... So if she' rolling along fine, no advancement of symptoms, fix not that which ain't broke! :rofl: It's gotta be something connected to the wild temporary pH swing,...

... I just finished drying a BV! :drool:... even with the P snafu she had resulting in fairly fluffy buds, she's a resin factory, with complex delish' aromatics, and serious potency! My KindSoil depleted out at the worst fucking possible time, right at early bud-set, so density/bud:leaf ratio was compromised even after I hammered her with synthetic PK boosters-- :shrug:-- others responded better, puzzling... Barney's! :eek1: Cross your fingers dude, I also ran 3 Acapulco Golds of theirs, all 3 different pheno's, one of which was a total turd! This smacks of sloppy breeding, a common complaint about BF these days,.. they have some fantastic strains, but getting the one "as described" is a bigger gamble than usual with fem's!

... oh, the GW is only an inoculant,... the "tonics" mentioned have vitamins and hormones in them to ehlp with shock and speed recovery of roots,...:hump: Having a solid healthy herd is always a plus though! ... Cheers bud, :pass:....looks like this house is blowing up again! :help: busy Infirmary... I'll pop by later!
 
.... these details help Kak' :thumbsup:-- in the past, other with this reported similar behavior of the affected leaves,... So if she' rolling along fine, no advancement of symptoms, fix not that which ain't broke! :rofl: It's gotta be something connected to the wild temporary pH swing,...

... I just finished drying a BV! :drool:... even with the P snafu she had resulting in fairly fluffy buds, she's a resin factory, with complex delish' aromatics, and serious potency! My KindSoil depleted out at the worst fucking possible time, right at early bud-set, so density/bud:leaf ratio was compromised even after I hammered her with synthetic PK boosters-- :shrug:-- others responded better, puzzling... Barney's! :eek1: Cross your fingers dude, I also ran 3 Acapulco Golds of theirs, all 3 different pheno's, one of which was a total turd! This smacks of sloppy breeding, a common complaint about BF these days,.. they have some fantastic strains, but getting the one "as described" is a bigger gamble than usual with fem's!

... oh, the GW is only an inoculant,... the "tonics" mentioned have vitamins and hormones in them to ehlp with shock and speed recovery of roots,...:hump: Having a solid healthy herd is always a plus though! ... Cheers bud, :pass:....looks like this house is blowing up again! :help: busy Infirmary... I'll pop by later!

Ok thanks man it has been a few days and she is still going fine, I just fed her again yesterday she is dryin out really quick. Really drinkin and she is starting to nug up now, I am just waiting on Moby to go into Pre-flower. I did a barneys LSD awhile back and got about 4 ounces of knock out smoke.. I may have got lucky because the Sweet Tooth Auto I got from Barneys was complete shit... Much luv man. Also I have seen different Phenos with the Blue Velvet the last Sniper did was really airy buds... The first one though was solid nugs and Phew... knock you on your ass lol. I am pumped about the YumBolt from CBD.. Do not work to hard!:chimp:
 
:doh: Gaahhh! Their Sweet tooth is consistently a turd- :shrug: :cuss:--- Try Mephisto's Toof Decay, or I think BC Bud Depot makes a good version (photo),... Anyway, this fits what I've seen from Barney's Farm these days,.. real hit-and-miss, but if you hit, it's freakin' juicy! The Kalishnapple x Sw. Tooth photo I got from mephisto is a very nice strain, even after the P snafu I had with all the KindSoil plants this year,..just take note that the photo's are not really "for sale" by the usual outlet, you must deal with Mitch directly, and understand that they are F1 crosses, so it's a pheno gamble all the way,.. but it's Mephisto, so you know it'll be snappy buds! :pass:
 
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